came the Counselorâs Wifeâs answer.
âBut Iâm telling you about it, you know?â
Pause.
âHow do you think I should feel about it?â the Counselorâs Wife asked.
âThere you go. Very clever. Answering questions with questions, turning it back on me, you know? But seriouslyâI mean it!âhow do I know what you think? Maybe youâd like to get spread-eagled yourself, how do I know? Would you like your wrists tied down? I want to hear that. Maybe youâd like to be a sandwich, you know?â Laughter, then another pause. âAll right, I know what youâre thinking, go ahead and say it. âIs that what I think most women want?ââ¦â
âWell?â the Counselorâs Wife said on the tape.
âSure they do, lots of them. They want to be scared. Most women are excited by being scared. It turns them on, you know? But I want to hear that from you. What turns you on, you know?â
Pause.
âWhy is it so important for you to know what turns me on?â asked the Counselorâs Wifeâs cool voice.
No answer.
Silence.
End of tape.
Increasingly, in the chronology of the tapes, he got more pointed, personal, more graphic too. And angrier, when seemingly nothing he said got to her. I could hear that clearly, and I kept thinking meanwhile that if the bridge-and-tunnel fathers and brothers hadnât done it yet, somebody sure ought to.
Still, that didnât make him a killer.
I said something of the sort to the Counselorâs Wife.
âWait a minute,â she said, head bowed and fiddling with the machine. âThere are a couple of more things I want you to hear.â
McCloy was very quiet in the next selection, at least at the beginning. Heâd start to say something, then heâd fall silent. You could hear him cough. Even though I knew it was part of the technique to wait for him to talk, I didnât see how she could just sit there, listening to him cough.
Suddenly, on the tape, she was the one who spoke:
âYou once said you thought women like to be scared, that being scared made them sexy. I wonder why you think thatâs so?â
âWhat makes you ask that now?â Tone of irritation.
âCuriosity, thatâs all. I also happen to think itâs not true, so I wonder why you think so.â
âItâs been ⦠well, itâs been my experience, you know?â
A conversation-stopper, but only for a minute.
âWhat frightens men?â the Counselorâs Wife asked. âIâve only heard you talk about scaring women, about what scares women. But what scares men?â
Pause.
âI donât know. Iâm never scared.â
âNever? Not even when you were little?â
Pause.
âI donât remember ever â¦â Pause. âNot really, you know?â Silence again. Then he started, slowly at first, then his voice picking up speed. âIâve got this friend ⦠Hal, you know? Iâve told you about him before ⦠You want to hear something really weird? He says that when he was little ⦠real little ⦠do you know what he was scared of? I mean like really scared? Of falling asleep, you know? He says he was scared to death of falling asleep! And do you know why? Guess. Go on, guess.â
No answer from the Counselorâs Wife but it didnât matter, the voice rushed on:
âIt was the kidâs prayer. His mother made him say it every night. You know the one I mean: âNow I Lay Me Down to Sleep,â you know? âNow I lay me down to sleep/I pray the Lord my soul to keep/If I should die before I die/I pray the Lord my soul to take.â
âIt made him an insomniac, you know? He was convinced that if he let himself fall asleep, he was going to die, you know? Can you imagine that? He did everything he could think of to keep from falling asleep! To this day, he wonât sleep with anything on him, not a