teams. But practice pays off, and you don't have to agonise over finding exceptional 'characters'. Given the right conditions, exceptional people will reveal themselves. The buzz of Virgin's early years was generated by a diverse mixture of incredible characters. I remember the brilliant Simon Draper, a student from South Africa who became the music buyer for our fledgling business. At Virgin Records, he was our musical sounding board. He was hip, cool, loved music and therefore had an unerring ability for finding fantastic music. He signed some of our best bands, and the music he fostered was the bedrock of our success.
There's another thing about teams: they don't last for ever. Think of a team as being like the cast in a theatrical play. Actors who work too long together on the same show for too long grow stale. When the business lets you, shake things up a little.
In the early days, when one of our Virgin companies ended up employing more than a hundred staff, I would ask to see the deputy managing director, the deputy sales manager and the deputy marketing director. I would say to them: 'You are now the managing director, the sales manager and the marketing director of a new company.' Then we would split the company in two. And when either of those companies got to a hundred people, I would once again ask to see the deputies and split the company again.
Virgin Records birthed nearly twenty different companies in the Notting Hill area of London. Each one would be independent and competing in the marketplace, but they would share the same accounts and invoicing department. Being the managing director of something small – rather than the assistant to the assistant MD of something big – gave people more clout. They were able to take pride in their successes, and they had to learn quickly and well from their failures. They were offered incentives according to how well they did. Although each company was relatively small, collectively the group turned into the largest independent record company in the world, and the most successful. If we'd kept everyone in the same building, I don't think we would have generated the ideas that led to our success.
Even today, each Virgin company is relatively small, although our airlines and train businesses, by their very nature, have grown significantly. I can't say that I know everyone's name now – indeed, it's been a while since that was the case, but we have tried to retain a culture of intimacy. If we set up a new airline we create a completely separate, stand-alone entity. Virgin Blue in Australia, Virgin Atlantic and Virgin America are independent companies. Our new airline in Russia will be independent, as is Virgin Nigeria, although we have pulled in technical people from Virgin Atlantic to help establish it. We pass and exchange expertise at arm's length. This makes the Virgin Group a fascinating environment for people who work in the airline businesses. One year Virgin people might be working in Britain or South Africa, the next spending time down under in Australia. This is a wonderful way of keeping hold of good people for longer. At Virgin, secondment is a way of life. There has to be a bit of give and take because some of our companies have different ownership structures. But our managing directors usually realise their people can benefit from a cross-fertilisation of ideas and culture.
There is nothing more demoralising than to work your pants off, only for strangers to be promoted to the senior positions you aspire to. At Virgin, we keep business in the family wherever we can, and we promote from within. The woman who was the managing director of Virgin's recording division started work for Virgin at the Manor Recording Studios; she was the cleaning lady. The manager of the Kasbah, our hotel in Asni, Morocco, first demonstrated her winning ways with people as a masseuse on Virgin Atlantic.
By 1995, I estimated some thirty people had become millionaires or